All Guilds Meeting – October 2019 – Cleansed Chatlog

(10/05 13:02:16)Korov’ev: Shorah, and welcome to the 114th All Guilds Meeting!

(10/05 13:02:21)Boywhith: Hi ES 🙂

(10/05 13:02:24)Korov’ev: In the D’ni calendar today is Leevot 17, 9675, and the time is 21:00:00

(10/05 13:02:31)Korov’ev: If there’s anyone new: welcome to the Cavern! You picked the best time to be online 🙂

(10/05 13:02:38)Korov’ev: As usual, I’ll remind you the 5 Meeting Rules:

(10/05 13:02:45)Korov’ev: 1. Please *keep chatter to a minimum* while speakers are talking. The occasional comment or emote is fine, but be respectful and let the speaker finish.

(10/05 13:02:57)Korov’ev: 2. If you have a question for a speaker, please don’t ask it directly: PM it to me. Be sure a “?” is somewhere in it to properly log the question in the queue.

(10/05 13:03:04)Korov’ev: 3. Speakers, please indicate when you are done speaking and ready for questions, and when you’re ready for the next question.

(10/05 13:03:13)Korov’ev: 4. If a question requires a long explanation, we may have to skip it to keep things moving. In that case, you can always PM any speaker once they’ve left the stage.

(10/05 13:03:21)Korov’ev: 5. A summary and a chatlog of the Meeting will be published in the next few days on the Guild of Messengers’ site:

(10/05 13:03:30)Korov’ev: Of course, you can start your own chatlog with “/startlog”.

(10/05 13:03:43)Christian Walther thinks Kor is cheating there with the time

(10/05 13:04:03)Korov’ev: Events! We all like Cavern events, don’t we?

(10/05 13:04:10)Korov’ev: Let’s hear about them from Minasunda!

(10/05 13:04:30)Rabbit leans right

(10/05 13:04:31)Sleeper Jan leans left

(10/05 13:04:43)Minasunda: shorah dear explorers.

(10/05 13:04:51)Sleeper Jan: shorah all

(10/05 13:04:55)Minasunda: You guessed it, if I stand here in front, then we have to face an event soon 😀

(10/05 13:05:04)Sleeper Jan: really

(10/05 13:05:06)Sleeper Jan: 🙂

(10/05 13:05:10)Minasunda: I have two announcements.

(10/05 13:05:23)Minasunda: First I would invite you to our Halloween event.

(10/05 13:05:36)Minasunda: It takes place on the 31st of October and starts at 13 KI in Mir-O-Bot’s Aegura.

(10/05 13:05:52)Minasunda: Attention – due to the time change, 13 KI will be one hour earlier than usual for the Europeans.

(10/05 13:06:07)Minasunda: We meet at the Plaza on the map.

(10/05 13:06:17)Grandbad: Brexit Party.

(10/05 13:06:25)Minasunda: in Mir-O-Bot’s city

(10/05 13:06:26)Korov’ev: Heh

(10/05 13:06:40)Minasunda: There is a scary hike through the city.

(10/05 13:06:56)Minasunda: I can tell you, it’s going to be really scary. Are you brave?

(10/05 13:07:05)Rabbit: no

(10/05 13:07:10)Mirphak: no, lol

(10/05 13:07:12)Minasunda: To ensure a smooth process, I ask you: PLEASE do NOT use magic commands during the event.

(10/05 13:07:16)Boywhith: Not at all…

(10/05 13:07:28)Minasunda: Eternal Seeker will lead this hike. Stay behind him so nothing escapes you.

(10/05 13:07:43)Kayara: That I will know afterwards for sure lol

(10/05 13:07:49)Minasunda: At the end of the horror hike Mir-O-Bot will link us all to Tiwah.

(10/05 13:08:04)Minasunda: There will be a dance party with Yoda’s wonderful effects.

(10/05 13:08:18)Minasunda: Again, it gets scary again. I hope you all have strong nerves and I will be able to see you all in the caves beyond Halloween 😛

(10/05 13:08:28)PodHopper is checking his pants…

(10/05 13:08:32)Minasunda: The music will be on

(10/05 13:08:38)philipgr: shiver me timbers

(10/05 13:08:53)Minasunda: Let’s have fun and scare us properly 😛 😛

(10/05 13:09:06)Minasunda: Does anyone have questions about this event?

(10/05 13:09:21)Rabbit cringes

(10/05 13:09:33)Korov’ev: Our next question is from Boywhith.

(10/05 13:09:33)Korov’ev: [Boywhith] what Age is Tiwah?

(10/05 13:09:51)Minasunda: is Descent sorry

(10/05 13:10:10)Boywhith: Thanks 🙂

(10/05 13:10:25)Korov’ev: Mir-o-Bot will get us there, right?

(10/05 13:10:26)Minasunda: Now there is a second thing. A really big celebration is ahead of us….

(10/05 13:10:30)Minasunda: yes

(10/05 13:11:02)Minasunda: Mir-O-Bpot will link us to Tiwah

(10/05 13:11:14)Grandbad: Not Brexit again 🙁

(10/05 13:11:17)Boywhith: 10 years MOULa !!!

(10/05 13:11:21)Minasunda: Now there is a second thing. A really big celebration is ahead of us….

(10/05 13:11:33)Minasunda: In February (more precisely on February 8) MOULa celebrates its 10th anniversary.

(10/05 13:11:43)Grandbad: Yay

(10/05 13:11:46)Rabbit: wow!

(10/05 13:11:47)Minasunda: Really. MOULa was online for 10 years. This is a reason to celebrate it – I think.

(10/05 13:11:52)philipgr: 🙂 🙂

(10/05 13:11:55)PodHopper: oooh yes….

(10/05 13:12:01)Minasunda: And of course, this celebration should be something very special.

(10/05 13:12:13)Minasunda: !!! I’ll call you: think about whether you can contribute with an event !!!

(10/05 13:12:19)rarified: A dedicated fan base to keep it going for 10 years with donations!

(10/05 13:12:27)Minasunda: The festive weekend should at least go from Friday, 07. February to Sunday 09. February and we want to fill these 3 days with life.

(10/05 13:12:43)Minasunda: If these 3 days are not enough to accommodate all your events – what I hope 😀 – then we start just a few days earlier.

(10/05 13:13:00)Minasunda: Of course, the Nulp Dance Group will do a show – this time in the Great Zero.

(10/05 13:13:16)Minasunda: The choreography and the stage technique is finished. The dancers are arranged and rehearsals are already running.

(10/05 13:13:34)Minasunda: Let your ideas run wild and let me know so I can get an overview and set up a preliminary timetable.

(10/05 13:13:49)Minasunda: Do not wait too long, you know the time flies fast. :)))

(10/05 13:14:05)Minasunda: You can contact me by KI mail, in the Myst Online Forum, on Facebook or by e-mail (lusabi[at]

(10/05 13:14:24)Minasunda: any questions ?

(10/05 13:14:40)Grandbad shakes his head

(10/05 13:14:45)Korov’ev: None in queue…

(10/05 13:14:54)Korov’ev: Thank you Minasunda!

(10/05 13:14:56)Minasunda: ok 🙂 thank you

(10/05 13:14:59)Minasunda bows

(10/05 13:15:14)Korov’ev: Brave Sir Robin ran away, bravely ran away away…

(10/05 13:15:39)Korov’ev: And now, an update from the Minkata shard:

(10/05 13:15:44)Korov’ev: let’s welcome rarified!

(10/05 13:16:06)rarified: Shorah all!

(10/05 13:16:16)Claidi Song waves hello

(10/05 13:16:17)rarified: This should be brief…

(10/05 13:16:42)rarified: I’d been cranking on the Minkata shard as usual, and as annouced last AGM,

(10/05 13:17:00)rarified: I set up a meeting to look for new volunteers to help with the work

(10/05 13:17:19)rarified: of running Minkata and the flow of updates. We held that meeting last Saturday.

(10/05 13:17:40)rarified: Unfortunately, there were no new volunteers present at that meeting. *sadface*

(10/05 13:17:58)rarified: However, many of the contributors were there, so we moved the discussion to

(10/05 13:18:13)Grandbad cannot get the Minkata Dhard to run. 🙁

(10/05 13:18:16)rarified: some of the current bottlenecks in getting things through Minkata..

(10/05 13:18:44)rarified: I’m “cautiously optimistic” that we’ve opened some new thinking on the

(10/05 13:18:46)philipgr cannot either

(10/05 13:19:03)rarified: processes of moving things from contributors to Minkata, and eventually here.

(10/05 13:19:04)Claidi Song can’t either

(10/05 13:19:25)rarified: I need to consult with my Cyan contacts on some of the proposed updates,

(10/05 13:19:26)Charlie Hustle ditto

(10/05 13:19:37)rarified: and will be posting that information on the OpenUru forums.

(10/05 13:20:01)rarified: In the mean time, we’ve got a new small update in the works from the GoW

(10/05 13:20:19)rarified: that will try some of the new tactics we’ve discussed. We’ll

(10/05 13:20:19)Sleeper Jan: i have to check it

(10/05 13:20:34)rarified: make an annoucement on the OU forums as well, when that is ready for testing.

(10/05 13:20:56)rarified: I see a number of you saying you can’t get access to the Minkata shard.

(10/05 13:21:09)Grandbad Correct

(10/05 13:21:10)rarified: I can hang around after the meeting and see if I can help you resolve your problems,

(10/05 13:21:14)rarified: if you would like..

(10/05 13:21:18)Tai’lahr: If this technofeeb can do it, anyone can.

(10/05 13:21:26)Sleeper Jan: i didnt go lately but i saw your announce, rarified

(10/05 13:21:27)Korov’ev: yeah, that would be best

(10/05 13:21:27)rarified: That’s all I have, Kor’

(10/05 13:21:27)Rabbit starts to laugh

(10/05 13:21:34)Claidi Song starts to laugh

(10/05 13:21:40)Grandbad: Yes 🙂

(10/05 13:21:45)Korov’ev: No questions in queue…

(10/05 13:21:53)Korov’ev: Thank you rarified!

(10/05 13:22:00)philipgr: yes 🙂

(10/05 13:22:03)rarified: Ok. Keep up the hopes, and we will get moving!

(10/05 13:22:05)Tai’lahr: Thank you, Rarified.

(10/05 13:22:06)rarified: Thank You!

(10/05 13:22:11)Charlie Hustle: Maybe host a new meeting here?

(10/05 13:22:29)Charlie Hustle: For the Minkata team?

(10/05 13:22:30)rarified: I could do that if you think it would help.

(10/05 13:22:33)Claidi Song Hi 5s

(10/05 13:22:38)Korov’ev: On the Fan Ages front…

(10/05 13:22:46)Korov’ev: Writer Melvin has just released FOUR new ones!

(10/05 13:23:02)Korov’ev: They are: Palamary bay, Peridia, MYST Refuge, and The Ruins of Azmar.

(10/05 13:23:09)Korov’ev: Collectively, they are part of the Path of the Lost Ages.

(10/05 13:23:12)Sleeper Jan: wow

(10/05 13:23:17)Korov’ev: They can be downloaded from

(10/05 13:23:23)Korov’ev: and are probably only suitable for the offline version.

(10/05 13:23:37)Korov’ev: Time for some Cyan news!

(10/05 13:23:44)Grandbad nods 🙂

(10/05 13:23:47)Korov’ev: With the help of the people of Inkworks Productions (Blade, Eleri, Alahmnat and others),

(10/05 13:23:55)Korov’ev: Cyan is working to centralize all of the lore about the Myst universe.

(10/05 13:24:06)Korov’ev: In order to do this though they need your help.

(10/05 13:24:14)Korov’ev: Documents, forums, chatlogs, emails can provide knowledge into the people and events going on at any given time.

(10/05 13:24:28)Korov’ev: If these logs are not saved, if forums go down and or community websites stop to exist we lose all of that information to the aether.

(10/05 13:24:30)Adam {Hoikas}: that’s an unfortunate association for an otherwise useful resource

(10/05 13:24:42)Tai’lahr coughs.

(10/05 13:24:44)Korov’ev shrugs

(10/05 13:24:50)Korov’ev: So: do you have an old RAWA email talking about lore? Do you have information on a lore related item from the LYST? Did you have a conversation with Rand or RAWA that include answers to lore questions?

(10/05 13:25:07)Korov’ev: Cyan want all of these things. Chatlogs from Uru Live, images of DRC members, live events. All of it. Bring the missing pages!

(10/05 13:25:15)Charlie Hustle sticks a bahro down his throat

(10/05 13:25:23)Korov’ev: They are not looking for speculation, or suggestions; rather, the aim is to gather all of the canon that may have fallen through the cracks.

(10/05 13:25:35)Korov’ev: If there is a resource online, just send Cyan the URL instead of the document. Double-check on some of the community resources to see if your information has already been recorded, and consider helping fill out those wikis!

(10/05 13:25:45)Korov’ev is biased in favor of the Guild of Archivists wiki

(10/05 13:26:20)Korov’ev: If it is an email thread, try to include the full thread, but remove personal email addresses, etc.

(10/05 13:26:29)Korov’ev: Metadata (where it comes from, the date it happened, how you acquired it, etc.) would be excellent.

(10/05 13:26:31)Tai’lahr: I have a wealth of resources, but not the time.

(10/05 13:26:42)Korov’ev: At this time Cyan will not be answering questions about lore. However, in the future the Lore Project’s efforts will be available to the public, so save those questions!

(10/05 13:26:54)Korov’ev: You can submit lore items to lore[at] You may receive follow up emails with questions, but if you don’t get any, assume that the item was taken and is now being curated.

(10/05 13:27:19)Korov’ev: Also, in a recent Reddit post, Grey Dragon showed photos and titles of all the linking book props used in the Myst series.

(10/05 13:27:26)Korov’ev:

(10/05 13:27:33)Korov’ev: They are:

(10/05 13:27:38)Korov’ev: Myst book: Harper’s New Monthly Magazine. Volume LIV (Dec 1876 to May 1877), 1877.

(10/05 13:27:43)Korov’ev: Riven descriptive book: Webster’s Unified Dictionary and Encyclopedia, 1953-1954.

(10/05 13:27:48)Korov’ev: Trap book: Harold Lamb. Omar Khayyam: A Life. Doubleday, Doran & Company, Inc., 1936.

(10/05 13:27:54)Korov’ev: Linking book Atrus brings at the end of Riven: Mary Nourse. Ferment In The Far East. The Robbs-Merrill Company, Inc.

(10/05 13:27:59)Korov’ev: The book Nelah hands you in Tay: Douglas Clyde Macintosh. The Pilgrimage Of Faith In The World Of Modern Thought. University of Calcutta, 1931.

(10/05 13:28:04)Korov’ev: Burned books: Mike McAlary. Buddy Boys / Robert S. Eliot & Dennis L. Breo. Is It Worth Dying For?

(10/05 13:28:14)Korov’ev: Grey Dragon clarified that the books were chosen solely for their appearance, titles or content are not relevant to the lore.

(10/05 13:28:21)Rabbit starts to laugh

(10/05 13:28:48)Eternal Seeker: Lore ?

(10/05 13:29:15)Korov’ev: i.e. picked oat random, solely for the look

(10/05 13:29:19)Charlie Hustle: Hodor

(10/05 13:29:21)Korov’ev: *at

(10/05 13:29:37)Korov’ev: And now, some news about Mysterium!

(10/05 13:29:39)Kayara: ET: Die Hintergrundgeschichte von Myst, Riven und Co.

(10/05 13:29:47)Korov’ev: First, the Committee would like to remind people about sending photos, videos, album links, and any lyrics you may have written for the Open Mic Night.

(10/05 13:29:59)Korov’ev: They have heard only from a handful of people, and would love to share all of those with the whole community.

(10/05 13:30:13)Korov’ev: Second, video editing is taking longer than expected – they have over 300GB of footage – but is proceeding.

(10/05 13:30:23)Korov’ev: The videos will be uploaded on:

(10/05 13:30:29)Korov’ev: Fifth… ehm, third, you might be wondering: have they chosen a location for the next edition?

(10/05 13:30:46)Korov’ev: Yes they did!

(10/05 13:30:57)Korov’ev: For the first time ever, Mysterium will be held in: Washington, DC.

(10/05 13:31:06) Rabbit is sad

(10/05 13:31:08)Tai’lahr: ugh

(10/05 13:31:19)Korov’ev: The city offers a robust transportation system to connect visitors from a multitude of airports and train stations to downtown and the suburbs.

(10/05 13:31:26)Korov’ev: Featuring free admission to museums and other attractions, the capital will have something to offer everyone in attendance this year.

(10/05 13:31:30)Charlie Hustle: Dirty city

(10/05 13:31:32)Korov’ev said, pretending he knew the city inside and out.

(10/05 13:31:56)Korov’ev: Next year’s edition will also be returning to the traditional schedule, ending midday on Sunday (around 1:00 PM).

(10/05 13:32:07)Korov’ev: More info about logistical decisions, including date selection, will follow in the next weeks [].

(10/05 13:32:24)Korov’ev: Fourth: the Committee will also rotate, with no less than three chairs: Capella and Drew will be joined by a relative newcomer, Dan.

(10/05 13:32:25)Grandbad checks his piggy bank … alas not enough to attend.

(10/05 13:32:42)Korov’ev: Nicknamed the Mysterium Triumvirate, they hope to combine their enthusiasm and Myst and community knowledge to make one of the best Mysterium conventions yet.

(10/05 13:32:52)Korov’ev: Taniith will take a well deserved rest after his hard work this year.

(10/05 13:33:04)Korov’ev: Fifth: there were several other VIPs who wanted to come, but couldn’t make it for one reason or another.

(10/05 13:33:16)Korov’ev: One of those people is Genevieve Lord, the Producer on Myst IV.

(10/05 13:33:32)Korov’ev: She got in touch with several of the concept artists who worked on Revelation and asked them if they had any concept art…

(10/05 13:33:51)Korov’ev: Sure enough, she was able to get artwork from Andrzej Tutaj, Meinert Hansen, and Stephane Turgeon, and with Ubisoft’s blessing, she was able to share that artwork with the Community!

(10/05 13:34:10)Korov’ev: Here’s the link:

(10/05 13:34:11)Grandbad smiles

(10/05 13:34:36)Rabbit is SO glad she is running a chatlog

(10/05 13:34:44)Korov’ev: Our next question is from Kayara.

(10/05 13:34:45)Korov’ev: [Kayara] Will there be a world-wide Mysterium thing again?

(10/05 13:34:50)philipgr something more to add to my collection of pics 🙂

(10/05 13:34:56)Charlie Hustle: Okay going shopping for DC clothes

(10/05 13:34:59)Korov’ev: I presume you mean the Mass Mysteria?

(10/05 13:35:11)Kayara: yes

(10/05 13:35:26)Kayara: Couldn’t remember the name

(10/05 13:35:32)Korov’ev: In my understanding, they weren’t as successful as they hoped

(10/05 13:35:52)rarified: cat !$

(10/05 13:36:24)rarified types in the wrong window

(10/05 13:36:25)Korov’ev: Our next question is from PodHopper.

(10/05 13:36:25)Korov’ev: [PodHopper] when will new year end this year in the hoods?

(10/05 13:36:38)Korov’ev: December 31 😉

(10/05 13:36:52)PodHopper is amazed!

(10/05 13:37:19)PodHopper: the banners i mean…

(10/05 13:37:47)Korov’ev: Cyan needs a reminder, I think 🙂

(10/05 13:38:04)Korov’ev: D’ni New Year is April 20

(10/05 13:38:20)Rabbit starts to laugh

(10/05 13:38:22)PodHopper: ok we’ll stick to that one…

(10/05 13:38:28)Korov’ev: (or 21)

(10/05 13:38:35)Kayara: considering the vast amount of Hoods these days they might need some people to help with getting them down too

(10/05 13:38:44)Tai’lahr: lol

(10/05 13:38:49)Korov’ev: Now, I have a message from r’Tayrtahn, aka Shokhootahn Rehn…

(10/05 13:38:57)Korov’ev: Story Night – Europe is canceled for this Saturday, October 5 due to unexpected traveling. Original Story Night is unaffected.

(10/05 13:39:01)Grandbad looks for his ladder

(10/05 13:39:07)Korov’ev: This week, there will be a special Story Night presentation during Original Story Night.

(10/05 13:39:20)Korov’ev: The bi-annual Bahro Glyph Tour will be held sometime during the month of November. There will be more details given during the November AGM.

(10/05 13:39:32)Korov’ev: End of line.

(10/05 13:39:59)Korov’ev: Unfortunately, sometimes I have to relay sad news.

(10/05 13:40:10)Korov’ev: It has been reported that Jason “Ja’run” Bobyarchick passed away on August 29 at the age of 34, a victim of gun violence.

(10/05 13:40:18)axenna: Oh no 🙁

(10/05 13:40:18)Kayara tries to think of a place in the cavern to store all those banners without them getting all moist and mouldy

(10/05 13:40:26)Korov’ev: He was one of the early explorers and beta testers of the Cavern.

(10/05 13:40:33)Korov’ev:

(10/05 13:40:36) Rabbit is sad

(10/05 13:40:38) Alien is sad

(10/05 13:40:38)PodHopper: lol

(10/05 13:40:47)Kayara: That’s very sad 🙁

(10/05 13:40:51)Grandbad is very sad to hear this news.

(10/05 13:40:53)Korov’ev feels like he’s doing these announcements way too often

(10/05 13:40:54)Rabbit: Damn

(10/05 13:40:59)Aristocat: very sad news

(10/05 13:41:03)Kayara: Blessings to his family and friends!

(10/05 13:41:12)philipgr is very sad

(10/05 13:41:27)PodHopper is sad too

(10/05 13:41:31)Aristocat hates violence in the world

(10/05 13:41:31)Korov’ev: And with that, it’s time to wrap up this Meeting.

(10/05 13:41:41)Korov’ev: Here is the summary of this month’s events (times in KI time)…

(10/05 13:41:49)Korov’ev: A calendar is also present in the left imager of the Guild of Messengers’ Hood;

(10/05 13:41:56)Korov’ev: if you find a mistake, please PM me here or on the forum so I can correct it.

(10/05 13:42:12)Korov’ev will need to update it, though

(10/05 13:42:14)Omiahn: thank you! 🙂

(10/05 13:42:19)Korov’ev: (Some events already presented by the speakers might be missing.)

(10/05 13:42:29)Korov’ev: Thursday 31 is the anniversary of Riven, released in 1997!

(10/05 13:42:47)axenna: Wow!

(10/05 13:42:49)Korov’ev: Speaking of anniversaries 🙂

(10/05 13:42:49)Boywhith: Thanks!

(10/05 13:43:07)Korov’ev: Friday, November 1 is the anniversary of the Gametap MO:UL fifth and final episode “Exodus”.

(10/05 13:43:14)Korov’ev: Now, for what’s going on in the Cavern itself:

(10/05 13:43:19)Korov’ev: The Guild of Greeters’ Hood is staffed Monday-Saturday 13:45-14:15, if you need hints or info about the Cavern.

(10/05 13:43:23)Korov’ev: Sun 13 & 27 @ 13:00: Radio Free D’ni, in Ae’gura Plaza []

(10/05 13:43:28)Korov’ev: Every Sun @ 13:00: Meeting Place Gatherings, in Meeting Place’s Hood

(10/05 13:43:29)Kayara: Kor: As sad a duty as it is, there is also a little bit of happiness in it as it means that no one had to make that announcement about you yet.

(10/05 13:43:40)Korov’ev: Every Mon @ 20:00: D’ni Language 101, in Guild of Instructors’ Hood

(10/05 13:43:46)Korov’ev: Every Tue @ 13:00: Relaxing & Balancing Hour, in Guild of Healers Hood’s Delin

(10/05 13:43:52)Korov’ev: Every Thu @ 13:00: Seeker’s Country Evening, in Mir-o-Bot’s Cleft

(10/05 13:43:56)Korov’ev: Every Thu @ 20:00: D’ni Language 101, in Guild of Instructors’ Hood

(10/05 13:44:01)Korov’ev: Every Fri @ 16:00: Triosity Radio, in Ae’gura Plaza []

(10/05 13:44:08)Korov’ev: Every Sat @ 14:00 (AGW WP): r’Tayrtahn’s Story Nights, in Tsahno’s Hood

(10/05 13:44:13)Korov’ev: Every Sat @ 16:00: Karaoke Parties, in Karaoke’s Hood []

(10/05 13:44:17)Korov’ev: Every Sat @ 23:30: r’Tayrtahn’s Story Nights, in Tsahno’s Hood

(10/05 13:44:22)Korov’ev: And…

(10/05 13:44:30)Korov’ev: The next All Guilds Meeting is planned for Saturday, November 2 at 13:00 KIT

(10/05 13:44:35)Korov’ev: Please consider donating to Cyan, to keep the Cavern open:

(10/05 13:44:40)Korov’ev bows

(10/05 13:44:40)Korov’ev: And with that, this Meeting is ended. Thank you all for coming, see you next month!